ToonBoom Express vs Full

I’m considering getting the express version before the special goes away today.

However, I find the limitation descriptions to be very sketchy. I’d appreciate if a few of the pros in there could help me out…

I get most of the limitations and believe I could work within them.

More precisely, what are:

* Cutout animation tools (No idea)

* Animated elements (what is that? Is this related to the “templates” ? Are these reusable animated clips like what can be found in flash?)

* Advanced lipsync (what is advanced lipsync? what is basic lipsync?)


I’m already well versed in flash and can use the copy from work. From what I’ve seen in the demo, I love the lipsynch features, the sweet palette management, and, of course, the camera.

Toonbook would be for personal projects, so I don’t have the money for the full blown version. I’m just wondering if the express is worth for me.

I usually do very simple shorts (a few minutes long) and rarely have the time to work in sophisticated animation. I hope to be able to cheat my way into having my stuff look more dynamic with a little camera work and save lots of time with lipsync and palettes.

A good example of what my stuff looks like can be found on JustAddZombies.com (this is very bare bones, I hope to do a little more on later projects).

Any info is appreciated!


Eric

Well, you might like to have a look at these links:

http://www.toonboom.com/pdf/product/tbs/TBSExpressfactsheet_V302_2006.pdf

http://www.toonboom.com/pdf/product/tbs/TBSV35_Factsheet.pdf

http://library.thinkquest.org/C0111614/Animation%20Lessons/cut-out.html

http://www.toonboom.com/products/eLearning/tutorials/

http://www.toonboom.com/products/toonBoomStudio/features.php

http://www.tallgrassradio.com/tgr0015.htm

http://2dcgi.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=a99ffaca4de7020e101c5393af9a248b&topic=746.0

Cheers
Nolan

Wow! Thanks, Nolan, for this wealth of information!

From what I see and the way I work, it seems that I’d be more efficient with the full version (or with flash) than the express version.

I work mainly with cutouts and lipsynch.

Now I’m still not sure what I get with lipsynch in the express version… but I suppose that whatever it is, it must be a tad easier than doing it in flash. But if I don’t get the automated method, I’m not sure its worth changing tool.

I suppose that I could do cutout animation without using the special cutout tools… but I fear that without pegs, I’d end up being frustrated.

The most interesting aspect I’d get would be the 3d camera.

I’ll have to see how well I can import assets from flash - perhaps I could animate my cutout there and import the swf as templates to use when I want to build more elaborate scenes.

Hm. Feels like I should just budget to buy the full TBS studio version later :frowning:

After more careful scanning, it seems I do get the automated lipsync (just not the “advanced” one).

Anyone here uses express? I suppose I can do most of my cutout animation using cell swapping…

but I’m concerned that this would not fit with the more “traditional” way of animating - I don’t plan on doing “in betweens” - I’d just like my cells to be held for a number of frames (much like keyframes in flash).

Anyone can confirm that this can be done in express?

Thanks!


Eric

Got an answer from ToonBoom (thanks Karen and Ugo!)

Here’s the answer:



So, basically, I don’t get an advantage on animating cutouts or lipsynching. With the peg limit, I don’t expect to get animation when express 3.5 comes out either.

I expect that I would get a bit more productive with the toonboom tools and could export to flash as well.

With the current special at 50$ it could be worth it.

But my gut tells me I should wait until I can afford the full version.

Well, I worked with Express only a very short time back in 2005,
but having only 2 pegs available, it’s fairly unsuitable
to do “proper” Cut Out Style Animation.

Nonetheless I personally think it’s a great animation tool for kids, beginners,
hobbyist and professionals a like.

So, I upgraded to Studio very soon and never looked back.

Here is a little animation I recently completed with Studio in “Cut-Out-Style”:

http://www.toonboom.com/showcase/index.php?type=mov&id=brunoBrunette&Cartoon_Animations_III=&

I presume doing the same or similar animation in Express would be impossible.

If you like to work mainly with “cutouts” - Studio would be the way to go,
but that is only my personal opinion.

Cheers
Nolan