Help with information in regards to creating animated shoulders


I’ve been searching for some time for information about animating shoulders in harmony?

I know how to use Auto patch to link the upper and lower arms but I would love for the shoulder to be joined to the arms in a similar way?

When I try the same method of autopatch then the arm becomes conjoined within the body and this doesn’t work.

Is there a tutorial out there for this or anyone has any tips please?